I am pretty sure I caught a shiner at one of these guys shows. A pretty good one, too.
I also scored a lot of free drinks at a gay club, where you could always count on this type of shit being spun on the turntables. Big, gay, leather bears like goth-punk boys in combat boots, I guess.
I am a complicated guy, and that was twenty years ago. Don't think about it too much.
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